Assange Proves He’s a True Hero: Will Face Jail in US for Obama to Free Chelsea Manning

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(ZH) — Just hours after NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden urged President Obama to “save [Chelsea Manning’s] life by granting her clemency,” Wikileaks’ founder Julian Assange says he will agree to be extradited to the United States if the president grants clemency to the former US soldier Chelsea Manning, who is currently serving a 35-year sentence for leaking documents.

The US Constitution allows a president to pardon “offenses against the United States” and commute — either shorten or end — federal sentences. Obama has so far granted 148 pardons since taking office in 2009 — fewer than his predecessors, who also served two terms, George W. Bush (189) and Bill Clinton (396). But he has surpassed any other president in the number of commutations, 1,176.

We noted previously that there was a number of high profile cases in front of President Obama as he prepares to leave The White House including Edward Snowden who tweeted yesterday…

And now, as AFP reports, Wikileaks’ founder Julian Assange has offered himself up if President Obama releases Manning

Assange has been living in the Ecuadoran embassy in London since June 2012 to avoid extradition to Sweden to face sexual assault allegations.

 The Australian former computer hacker said he fears Stockholm will in turn extradite him to the US, where he angered Washington over WikiLeaks’ publication of thousands of US military and diplomatic documents leaked by former US soldier Manning.

 

Manning is currently serving a 35-year sentence in solitary confinement for handing over the 700,000 sensitive documents from the US State Department.

 

Supporters of the transgender soldier are putting their hopes in a pardon by Obama before he leaves office later this month, although the White House has said the president will not be granting her clemency.

 

Manning has already made two suicide attempts and currently has an appeal pending before a military court.

 

Washington has maintained the threat of prosecuting Assange over the 2010 leak, though no charges have been filed.

Interestingly, Assange’s offer comes just days after his uncharacteristically emotional interview with Sean Hannity…

“I have been detained illegally, without charge for six years, without sunlight, lots of spies everywhere. It’s tough… but that’s the mission I set myself on. I understand the kind of game that’s being played – big powerful actors will try and take revenge...it’s a different thing for my family – I have young children, under 10 years old, they didn’t sign up for that… and I think that is fundamentally unjust… my family is innocent, they didn’t sign up for that fight.

 

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  1. You have so much shit on this page it takes longer to load than a movie…your web pages are becoming so tiresome to load that I truly believe (in discussion with others) that people will stop reading this stuff. OUT!

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  2. Wait, so we are just calling him a hero now? He offered to do something that I am sure he knows the government will not go for. Also, if he were a true “hero”, he would just turn himself in and have his organization take up the cause for Ms. Manning.

    Another headline that makes claims that are just NOT proven anywhere (not the article, not via other sources, nowhere) but somehow people got the impression that this site is fake news…wonder how they got that idea…

    • yeah, because turning himself in would give him all the leverage in the world to free manning. Please, go troll somewhere else.

      • AHAHAHA, the irony of being called a troll by someone who works at the biggest troll factory around taste so sweet.

        And what leverage does criminal Assange have now? He has no leverage, not now not ever.

        Also, I was commenting on the lack of journalism in simply saying that he is a hero based on the fact that he offered himself up…it wasn’t even him, it was the twitter page. I always knew this site had limited journalistic standards but this is sub-par even for a fake news site.

        • What does that last bit say about you? The immediate options that come to mind are that you’re an indiscriminate idiot who just stares at anything in front of his face, or (more likely) you’re an antagonistic asshole who seeks out things he hates just so he can bitch about them and have a good excuse to insult people. Your click adds to this site’s popularity the same as any fan’s, which begs the following question. Do you routinely support things you don’t like and/or respect, or are you making an exception for FTP?

          • Unlikely the Mods on this site, no one else gets picked on by me and feel free to confirm that. I am not here to insult anyone. I am here to speak my mind and I will do it for whatever reason I want. Feel free to continue antagonizing me though, it’s great to see you making a decent use of your time, for once.

            And since you asked, yes, I support financially and otherwise, organizations I disagree with because I disagree with most of them; there is no exception in the media. I am a firm believer that progress does not get made by people talking about how much they agree on things but rather argue, while respecting each other (something that is seriously lacking the way you mods run this board). If someone wants to disagree with something I said, I am happy to explain myself rather than have people like you speak for me. Keep calling me a troll but I am not going anywhere; my click and comment will make sure of that you don’t go away before I am done.

          • As far as your “reputation” around here goes, I think the fact that you have half as many upvotes as posts speaks for itself. Also, if 52 posts is all you can produce in a year and a half, you’re not exactly a powerhouse activist… though I suspect this account is a sock puppet you use when you feel like being contrary. Here’s a catchy little song to help you through social interactions like these:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI

          • At least Matt listened to your advice…

            You continue to attack me personally while I make legitimate critiques that go unaddressed. I am starting to feel like you are the troll…but then again, you get must get paid to do this.

            I was not trying to compare reputation for reputation and I never claimed to be anything resembling an activist, pff! I have no other account, not here or anywhere. I wanted to engage with people who disagree with me so I came to the source. If you prefer to have a shit talking match with someone, please find someone else to troll. However, if you believe you have anything worth sharing about my thoughts, I am open to critique and discussion.

      • I am familiar with the power of that monopoly. thank you. But obviously, you didn’t bother to read my comment nor did you happen to read your own source.

        The headline on this site: Assange Proves He’s a True Hero: Will Face Jail in US for Obama to Free Chelsea Manning
        The headline on the second “source”: If Obama grants Manning clemency Assange will agree to US extradition despite clear unconstitutionality of DoJ (US Department of Justice) case,” WikiLeaks wrote on Twitter.

        The headline on this site claims he WILL face jail time which is only true of the US agrees to a TWEET, not a formal message from Assange himself but a tweet that was put on the official Wikileaks twitter account; these two things are NOT the same. As for the other headline and follow up article, it states in the first few article ““If Obama grants Manning clemency Assange will agree to US extradition despite clear unconstitutionality of DoJ (US Department of Justice) case,” WikiLeaks wrote on Twitter.” which means that everything that is being reported by this site is based on a bunch of assumptions. This site perpetuates the bad behaviors that it claims that other organizations are doing and then pretends like they are honest. It is much worst to be doing what you are criticizing someone about while continuing to criticize them. This is all just plain SAD!

        • An extradition to the US would gaurantee the possibility of facing jail. Do you know what extradition means? Do you think Assange would be put in the holiday inn if he agreed to be extradited to the US. He would go straight to jail to await trial – FACT.

          • So, we should just believe that Assange is going to do his part even though no one believes that this deal will ever happen? I am confused by what point, if any, you are trying to make.

            I was not talking down to you before Matt, but I am now offended that you would suggest I don’t know how to web search the word ‘extradition’. As a troll, I am an expert.

          • “An extradition to the US would guarantee the possibility of facing jail”

            When did Julian Assange get brought up on any charges in the US?

        • Jesus, Matt – get gun out of this guy’s ear and untie him at once! Oh no, wait… this is a voluntary conversation. It’s sad that you stick around and put up with sad things. Got nothing better in your life than this? *shakes her hanging head and tsks*

          • What’s ironic is that you and Matt are still continuing to engage but neither of you is making points that can stick.

          • So you rather start attacking him, launching ad hominems instead of arguing his points?
            This site posts an article, he presents his views, criticizes certain things, has valid points, and the mods of the site basically tell him that he’s sad and needs to find something to do with his life?

        • “This site perpetuates the bad behaviors that it claims that other organizations are doing and then pretends like they are honest”

          Correct!

    • Yes we are calling Julian Assange a hero but we’ve not just begun today. He’s been a hero for some time.

      Offering to trade your tiny remaining bit of freedom for the release of someone who released factual information in the hopes of ending an injustice seems to pretty much fit the definition of heroism.

      But there’s more than that alone WikiLeaks has a spotless reputation for accuracy so Assange would also tarnish the reputation of his own media organization beyond redemption should his offer be accepted and he failed to follow through.

      Let’s sum this up, Julian Assange being willing to risk his freedom and the media organization he’s spent a lifetime building for a matter of principal sure seems like heroism as I understand the term. What sort of self sacrifice would be qualified to be a heroic act as you understand the word?

      • OK. I didn’t realize that there were parts of the internet where Assange was a hero but I know that now…even if I disagree.

        So he’s heroism is in offering himself in a situation that everyone knows is never going to happen…OK that seems like a low bar but I understand that point.

        It just seems to me that what this dude is doing is equivalent to me saying to my wife, sure I would love to go to her mothers, when I know that she is not interested in seeing her mother so she will thank me for offering and I will look like a “hero”. He knows that the US will never agree to his “deal” which is why it was posted on Twitter and not sent as a memo to the president or communicate in a less public way. The amount of praise this site gave him does not seem equal to this particular action.

  3. Yes indeed so! April 05, 2013 National Day of Civic Hacking at the White House

    On the first weekend in June, civic activists, technology experts, and entrepreneurs around the country will gather together for the National Day of Civic Hacking. By combining their expertise with new technologies and publicly released data, participants hope to build tools that help others in their own neighborhoods and across the United States. It’s a great cause and we’re excited to take part. On June 1, we’ll welcome developers and tech experts to the White House for our second hackathon.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/04/05/national-day-civic-hacking-white-house

  4. A deal like this would require a LOT of (unearned) trust from either party. I mean, what’s to stop whoever doesn’t go first from say “HA, sucker.” If they let Ms. Manning go, they can’t just lock her back up if Mr. Assange reneges on the deal – so many people have been campaigning for her release and those people would go fucking apeshit. It’d have to be one of those scenes like in the war movies, where they’re both put in handcuffs and physically traded at some meeting point. I don’t think this is going to happen!

  5. Assange can go to Sweden not to the US. There are too many fascists in the US, in both parties. He will never get a fair trial.

  6. Assange is a man,Obama a masonic chit garbage n traitor of this great great n awesome nation,hes the one who must face jail,but for my surprise theres no one hero man to have the guts to do it!Hes a phuking bastard,get him out of my eyesseeing,coz hes a cancer!!!

  7. Manning has a rather sad life. This is not an excuse for releasing classified material. In his defense, the military SHOULD have removed him from his 35F MOS after he posted video of the inside of his crypto safe room on line. (an action that only a moron can appreciate). Then he wouldn’t have been in the position to get to the documents he released. STILL, since I was in communications and handled the same material as he did, and understand the significance of what he did (most people do not), his actions are horrendous at the very least, and is deserving of his sentencing. HOWEVER, there is little doubt in my mind, that before Jan 20th, a few days from now, Pres Obama will “weigh in” on this case, and probably release him (to the rest of our shame). But that’s what Obama is good for. Apologizing for America and Americans for being so bad.

      • The cruelty you would impose on others IS the cruelty that you ARE .
        You are a miserable wretch , in a prison of your own making . Trying to convince yourself otherwise by pretending to be a better person than someone who can’t even fight back , is never going to get YOU out .

    • 35 years for being a whistleblower to the media is just? People are so blinded by nationalism that they would sacrifice all of their values and liberty for the sake of a little more safety. As Ben Franklin said, people with this attitude deserve neither liberty nor safety. He didn’t leak secrets to betray his country, he leaked evidence of unconstitutional activity.

  8. That we all merrily carry on in our own little lives , while prisons exist for the the purpose of PUNISHMENT , of any living being no matter what THEY have done , and the bns of animals that we torture and kill in the most vile and base way , makes us all , ‘ Obamas ‘ .

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